Noob questions follow:
I've found a box with water inside and contents soggy with water
inside all of the bags.
Should I just contact the owner and replace as best as possible on the
spot (Which I did).. or should I take them home and dry the papers
properly and replace ASAP?
Another question about water. What is the best method to keep the
contents as dry as possible?
I assume that moisture enters a sealed box as barometric pressure
changes and the 'sealed' box breathes in and out through the seal
trapping moisture inside which builds up into a big puddle. Moisture
even enters double bag systems leaving the papers damp.
Perhaps there is, or should be a rule of thumb for box maintenance
such as once a year as many of my finds are nearly 4 years old.
Pioneer Spirit.
Questions about damaged boxes.
11 messages in this thread |
Started on 2006-03-12
Questions about damaged boxes.
From: (RMORGAN762@aol.com) |
Date: 2006-03-12 23:00:28 UTC-05:00
Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
From: CompassPoints (ltrboxingrichters@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-03-13 14:11:11 UTC
I would be hesitant to take someone's box, even for repairs, until
they have okay'd it. I think the best bet would be to head home and
e-mail them first.
It's true, ultimately there's no way to keep out moisture. One thing
that would help would be to add desicants (sp?) to the box when you
place them or do maintenance. These are the things in shoe boxes,
pill bottles etc. I believe you can buy them, but you could also ask
your local pharmacist to save them. You would believe how many they
throw away in a day.
You're right about routine maintenance being important. However, some
place them in far away places and can't make it back. That's why it's
so great that some people adopt other people's boxes.
Kim
Compass Points
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@... wrote:
>
> Noob questions follow:
>
>
> I've found a box with water inside and contents soggy with water
> inside all of the bags.
>
> Should I just contact the owner and replace as best as possible on
the
> spot (Which I did).. or should I take them home and dry the papers
> properly and replace ASAP?
>
>
> Another question about water. What is the best method to keep the
> contents as dry as possible?
>
> I assume that moisture enters a sealed box as barometric pressure
> changes and the 'sealed' box breathes in and out through the seal
> trapping moisture inside which builds up into a big puddle. Moisture
> even enters double bag systems leaving the papers damp.
>
> Perhaps there is, or should be a rule of thumb for box maintenance
> such as once a year as many of my finds are nearly 4 years old.
>
>
>
>
> Pioneer Spirit.
>
they have okay'd it. I think the best bet would be to head home and
e-mail them first.
It's true, ultimately there's no way to keep out moisture. One thing
that would help would be to add desicants (sp?) to the box when you
place them or do maintenance. These are the things in shoe boxes,
pill bottles etc. I believe you can buy them, but you could also ask
your local pharmacist to save them. You would believe how many they
throw away in a day.
You're right about routine maintenance being important. However, some
place them in far away places and can't make it back. That's why it's
so great that some people adopt other people's boxes.
Kim
Compass Points
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@... wrote:
>
> Noob questions follow:
>
>
> I've found a box with water inside and contents soggy with water
> inside all of the bags.
>
> Should I just contact the owner and replace as best as possible on
the
> spot (Which I did).. or should I take them home and dry the papers
> properly and replace ASAP?
>
>
> Another question about water. What is the best method to keep the
> contents as dry as possible?
>
> I assume that moisture enters a sealed box as barometric pressure
> changes and the 'sealed' box breathes in and out through the seal
> trapping moisture inside which builds up into a big puddle. Moisture
> even enters double bag systems leaving the papers damp.
>
> Perhaps there is, or should be a rule of thumb for box maintenance
> such as once a year as many of my finds are nearly 4 years old.
>
>
>
>
> Pioneer Spirit.
>
Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
From: Robert LaBelle (r.labelle@verizon.net) |
Date: 2006-03-13 16:20:08 UTC
Yes, everyone should revisit their boxes once a year and confirm in
the clues that the box is still in place as of that date. A
reasonable exception might be where there has been a recent record of
a find. And, an 'attempted find' should be a red flag! Of course, I
don't quite manage to keep that schedule, and some are even in other
states. I know that some do indeed survive for four years.
Some help with a damaged box would probably be welcomed, or at the
very least advising the placer of the need.
Bob / Cock o' the Trail
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@... wrote:
>
> Noob questions follow:
>
>
> I've found a box with water inside and contents soggy with water
> inside all of the bags.
>
> Should I just contact the owner and replace as best as possible
on the
> spot (Which I did).. or should I take them home and dry the papers
> properly and replace ASAP?
>
>
> Another question about water. What is the best method to keep the
> contents as dry as possible?
>
> I assume that moisture enters a sealed box as barometric pressure
> changes and the 'sealed' box breathes in and out through the seal
> trapping moisture inside which builds up into a big puddle.
Moisture
> even enters double bag systems leaving the papers damp.
>
> Perhaps there is, or should be a rule of thumb for box
maintenance
> such as once a year as many of my finds are nearly 4 years old.
>
>
>
>
> Pioneer Spirit.
>
the clues that the box is still in place as of that date. A
reasonable exception might be where there has been a recent record of
a find. And, an 'attempted find' should be a red flag! Of course, I
don't quite manage to keep that schedule, and some are even in other
states. I know that some do indeed survive for four years.
Some help with a damaged box would probably be welcomed, or at the
very least advising the placer of the need.
Bob / Cock o' the Trail
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@... wrote:
>
> Noob questions follow:
>
>
> I've found a box with water inside and contents soggy with water
> inside all of the bags.
>
> Should I just contact the owner and replace as best as possible
on the
> spot (Which I did).. or should I take them home and dry the papers
> properly and replace ASAP?
>
>
> Another question about water. What is the best method to keep the
> contents as dry as possible?
>
> I assume that moisture enters a sealed box as barometric pressure
> changes and the 'sealed' box breathes in and out through the seal
> trapping moisture inside which builds up into a big puddle.
Moisture
> even enters double bag systems leaving the papers damp.
>
> Perhaps there is, or should be a rule of thumb for box
maintenance
> such as once a year as many of my finds are nearly 4 years old.
>
>
>
>
> Pioneer Spirit.
>
Re: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
From: (RMORGAN762@aol.com) |
Date: 2006-03-13 13:08:06 UTC-05:00
Out of the 13 I've found in the last two weeks, one was waterlogged,
two were in areas where new construction was very near, three had no
coverings, two had log books full and one had a cap missing, all were
damp. Four more were MIA. Properly hidden and maintained, I'd think
several years with no accidental finds would be easy. I know
dessicate packs would help provided that you change them regularly and
many folks buy the stuff in bulk for drying flowers.
Although I stumble upon things very frequently, especially old
balloons and such, not counting the endless bottles, cans and shotgun
shells. I've found two ink pens, a lens cap and two balloons this
weekend alone in the woods off-trail.
Pioneer Spirit.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert LaBelle
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:20:08 -0000
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
Yes, everyone should revisit their boxes once a year and confirm in
the clues that the box is still in place as of that date. A
reasonable exception might be where there has been a recent record of
a find. And, an 'attempted find' should be a red flag! Of course, I
don't quite manage to keep that schedule, and some are even in other
states. I know that some do indeed survive for four years.
Some help with a damaged box would probably be welcomed, or at the
very least advising the placer of the need.
Bob / Cock o' the Trail
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@... wrote:
>
> Noob questions follow:
>
>
> I've found a box with water inside and contents soggy with water
> inside all of the bags.
>
> Should I just contact the owner and replace as best as possible
on the
> spot (Which I did).. or should I take them home and dry the papers
> properly and replace ASAP?
>
>
> Another question about water. What is the best method to keep the
> contents as dry as possible?
>
> I assume that moisture enters a sealed box as barometric pressure
> changes and the 'sealed' box breathes in and out through the seal
> trapping moisture inside which builds up into a big puddle.
Moisture
> even enters double bag systems leaving the papers damp.
>
> Perhaps there is, or should be a rule of thumb for box
maintenance
> such as once a year as many of my finds are nearly 4 years old.
>
>
>
>
> Pioneer Spirit.
>
Yahoo! Groups Links
two were in areas where new construction was very near, three had no
coverings, two had log books full and one had a cap missing, all were
damp. Four more were MIA. Properly hidden and maintained, I'd think
several years with no accidental finds would be easy. I know
dessicate packs would help provided that you change them regularly and
many folks buy the stuff in bulk for drying flowers.
Although I stumble upon things very frequently, especially old
balloons and such, not counting the endless bottles, cans and shotgun
shells. I've found two ink pens, a lens cap and two balloons this
weekend alone in the woods off-trail.
Pioneer Spirit.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert LaBelle
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:20:08 -0000
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
Yes, everyone should revisit their boxes once a year and confirm in
the clues that the box is still in place as of that date. A
reasonable exception might be where there has been a recent record of
a find. And, an 'attempted find' should be a red flag! Of course, I
don't quite manage to keep that schedule, and some are even in other
states. I know that some do indeed survive for four years.
Some help with a damaged box would probably be welcomed, or at the
very least advising the placer of the need.
Bob / Cock o' the Trail
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, RMORGAN762@... wrote:
>
> Noob questions follow:
>
>
> I've found a box with water inside and contents soggy with water
> inside all of the bags.
>
> Should I just contact the owner and replace as best as possible
on the
> spot (Which I did).. or should I take them home and dry the papers
> properly and replace ASAP?
>
>
> Another question about water. What is the best method to keep the
> contents as dry as possible?
>
> I assume that moisture enters a sealed box as barometric pressure
> changes and the 'sealed' box breathes in and out through the seal
> trapping moisture inside which builds up into a big puddle.
Moisture
> even enters double bag systems leaving the papers damp.
>
> Perhaps there is, or should be a rule of thumb for box
maintenance
> such as once a year as many of my finds are nearly 4 years old.
>
>
>
>
> Pioneer Spirit.
>
Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
From: (Stellabaker123@aol.com) |
Date: 2006-03-13 13:18:53 UTC-05:00
It's early almost Spring so that is not unusual this time of the year. All
hikers try to pick up what & when they can to keep our woods clean.
STAR:W+S=DRR
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hikers try to pick up what & when they can to keep our woods clean.
STAR:W+S=DRR
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Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
From: ncginger2000 (ncginger2000@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-03-13 19:42:38 UTC
At the risk of startin' somethin', why should *one* attempted find
be a red flag????? There is a particular box in my area that I can't
find no matter what. I write the placer that it's not there and lo
and behold a couple weeks later someone finds it. After about five
attempted finds on my part, I have decided that I am Captain Ahab
and it's my Moby Dick... And no the placer hasn't come along and
replaced it in the meantime because she lives too far away.
There are some boxes out there safe and warm in their little hiding
places that probably have more attempted finds than finds.
Knit Wit
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Robert LaBelle"
wrote:
>
> Yes, everyone should revisit their boxes once a year and confirm
in
> the clues that the box is still in place as of that date. A
> reasonable exception might be where there has been a recent record
of
> a find. And, an 'attempted find' should be a red flag!
be a red flag????? There is a particular box in my area that I can't
find no matter what. I write the placer that it's not there and lo
and behold a couple weeks later someone finds it. After about five
attempted finds on my part, I have decided that I am Captain Ahab
and it's my Moby Dick... And no the placer hasn't come along and
replaced it in the meantime because she lives too far away.
There are some boxes out there safe and warm in their little hiding
places that probably have more attempted finds than finds.
Knit Wit
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Robert LaBelle"
>
> Yes, everyone should revisit their boxes once a year and confirm
in
> the clues that the box is still in place as of that date. A
> reasonable exception might be where there has been a recent record
of
> a find. And, an 'attempted find' should be a red flag!
[LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
From: gwendontoo (foxsecurity@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2006-03-13 20:27:33 UTC
While Placers should maintain their own letterboxes, I think that it
is a great idea for all letterboxers to carry some ziplocks, extra
logbooks` and even an empty tupperware when they go out searching for
letterboxes.
Don
is a great idea for all letterboxers to carry some ziplocks, extra
logbooks` and even an empty tupperware when they go out searching for
letterboxes.
Don
Re: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
From: Melisa Hills (mshills1@wi.rr.com) |
Date: 2006-03-13 14:29:22 UTC-06:00
LOL - we have one of those!!!
The Cat Herders
At 01:42 PM 3/13/2006, you wrote:
>At the risk of startin' somethin', why should *one* attempted find
>be a red flag????? There is a particular box in my area that I can't
>find no matter what. I write the placer that it's not there and lo
>and behold a couple weeks later someone finds it. After about five
>attempted finds on my part, I have decided that I am Captain Ahab
>and it's my Moby Dick... And no the placer hasn't come along and
>replaced it in the meantime because she lives too far away.
>
>There are some boxes out there safe and warm in their little hiding
>places that probably have more attempted finds than finds.
>
>Knit Wit
The Cat Herders
At 01:42 PM 3/13/2006, you wrote:
>At the risk of startin' somethin', why should *one* attempted find
>be a red flag????? There is a particular box in my area that I can't
>find no matter what. I write the placer that it's not there and lo
>and behold a couple weeks later someone finds it. After about five
>attempted finds on my part, I have decided that I am Captain Ahab
>and it's my Moby Dick... And no the placer hasn't come along and
>replaced it in the meantime because she lives too far away.
>
>There are some boxes out there safe and warm in their little hiding
>places that probably have more attempted finds than finds.
>
>Knit Wit
Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
From: Robert LaBelle (r.labelle@verizon.net) |
Date: 2006-03-13 22:01:25 UTC
Well, of course I don't claim that an 'attempted find' is equivalent
to a LB gone missing. But it should alert the placer. Let's make
that a yellow flag . . . (and I stand corrected).
Bob / Cock o' the Trail
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ncginger2000"
wrote:
>
> At the risk of startin' somethin', why should *one* attempted find
> be a red flag????? There is a particular box in my area that I
can't
> find no matter what. I write the placer that it's not there and lo
> and behold a couple weeks later someone finds it. After about five
> attempted finds on my part, I have decided that I am Captain Ahab
> and it's my Moby Dick... And no the placer hasn't come along and
> replaced it in the meantime because she lives too far away.
>
> There are some boxes out there safe and warm in their little hiding
> places that probably have more attempted finds than finds.
>
> Knit Wit
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Robert LaBelle"
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, everyone should revisit their boxes once a year and confirm
> in
> > the clues that the box is still in place as of that date. A
> > reasonable exception might be where there has been a recent
record
> of
> > a find. And, an 'attempted find' should be a red flag!
>
to a LB gone missing. But it should alert the placer. Let's make
that a yellow flag . . . (and I stand corrected).
Bob / Cock o' the Trail
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ncginger2000"
>
> At the risk of startin' somethin', why should *one* attempted find
> be a red flag????? There is a particular box in my area that I
can't
> find no matter what. I write the placer that it's not there and lo
> and behold a couple weeks later someone finds it. After about five
> attempted finds on my part, I have decided that I am Captain Ahab
> and it's my Moby Dick... And no the placer hasn't come along and
> replaced it in the meantime because she lives too far away.
>
> There are some boxes out there safe and warm in their little hiding
> places that probably have more attempted finds than finds.
>
> Knit Wit
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Robert LaBelle"
>
> >
> > Yes, everyone should revisit their boxes once a year and confirm
> in
> > the clues that the box is still in place as of that date. A
> > reasonable exception might be where there has been a recent
record
> of
> > a find. And, an 'attempted find' should be a red flag!
>
Re: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
From: (RMORGAN762@aol.com) |
Date: 2006-03-14 02:35:16 UTC-05:00
I started out with a small fanny pack for my stuff and I soon realized
that I was outgrowing it quickly. Once I added the cleaning rag for
drying out the boxes, then extra paper, now I've decided to add new zip
locks after seeing the water filled box. Soon I'll need a wheel barrow.
-----Original Message-----
From: gwendontoo
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:27:33 -0000
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
While Placers should maintain their own letterboxes, I think that it
is a great idea for all letterboxers to carry some ziplocks, extra
logbooks` and even an empty tupperware when they go out searching for
letterboxes.
Don
Yahoo! Groups Links
that I was outgrowing it quickly. Once I added the cleaning rag for
drying out the boxes, then extra paper, now I've decided to add new zip
locks after seeing the water filled box. Soon I'll need a wheel barrow.
-----Original Message-----
From: gwendontoo
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:27:33 -0000
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
While Placers should maintain their own letterboxes, I think that it
is a great idea for all letterboxers to carry some ziplocks, extra
logbooks` and even an empty tupperware when they go out searching for
letterboxes.
Don
Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
From: (jsh11a@aol.com) |
Date: 2006-03-14 11:12:50 UTC-05:00
Sure... throw a tarp over it and you're all set! ;-)
~~~~~~~~~~~ Ask me about sponsoring a tsunami orphan~~~~~~~~~
-----Original Message-----
From: RMORGAN762@aol.com
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:35:16 -0500
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
I started out with a small fanny pack for my stuff and I soon realized
that I was outgrowing it quickly. Once I added the cleaning rag for
drying out the boxes, then extra paper, now I've decided to add new zip
locks after seeing the water filled box. Soon I'll need a wheel barrow.
-----Original Message-----
From: gwendontoo
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:27:33 -0000
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
While Placers should maintain their own letterboxes, I think that it
is a great idea for all letterboxers to carry some ziplocks, extra
logbooks` and even an empty tupperware when they go out searching for
letterboxes.
Don
Yahoo! Groups Links
Yahoo! Groups Links
~~~~~~~~~~~ Ask me about sponsoring a tsunami orphan~~~~~~~~~
-----Original Message-----
From: RMORGAN762@aol.com
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:35:16 -0500
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
I started out with a small fanny pack for my stuff and I soon realized
that I was outgrowing it quickly. Once I added the cleaning rag for
drying out the boxes, then extra paper, now I've decided to add new zip
locks after seeing the water filled box. Soon I'll need a wheel barrow.
-----Original Message-----
From: gwendontoo
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:27:33 -0000
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Questions about damaged boxes.
While Placers should maintain their own letterboxes, I think that it
is a great idea for all letterboxers to carry some ziplocks, extra
logbooks` and even an empty tupperware when they go out searching for
letterboxes.
Don
Yahoo! Groups Links
Yahoo! Groups Links